Retail listings confirm key AMD Ryzen 5000 Mobile CPU specs

by Mark Tyson on 7 December 2020, 10:11

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Multiple retailer product pages detailing an array of Asus and Lenovo laptops with unannounced AMD Ryzen Mobile processors have been spotted online. The Ryzen 5000H/5000U Series of processors from AMD is expected to launch at CES 2021 but these product pages leave little to the imagination, with rather detailed specifications divulged.

Twitter-based tech news nugget miner Momomo_us found these European listings. You can see that quite a wide selection of models are going to come packing these processors, like Asus ZenBooks, as well as TUF and ROG Zephyrus gaming laptops. Lenovo seems to have prepared a mix of IdeaPad 5 and Flex 5 laptops with the new processors. From the leaked details I have put together a handy reference table. Please check below.

CPU (Arch)

Cores / Threads

Base / Boost Clocks

H-Series

 

Ryzen 9 5900HX (Zen 3)

8 / 16

3.3 / 4.6GHz

Ryzen 9 5900HS (Zen 3)

8 / 16

3.1 / 4.5GHz

Ryzen 7 5800H (Zen 3)

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Ryzen 5 5600H (Zen 3)

6 / 12

3.0 / 4.1GHz

U-Series

 

Ryzen 9 5800U (Zen 3)

8 / 16

2.0 / 4.4GHz

Ryzen 7 5700U (Zen 2)

8 / 16

1.8 / -?GHz

Ryzen 5 5600U (Zen 3)

6 / 12

2.3 / 4.3GHz

Ryzen 5 5500U (Zen 2)

6 / 12

2.1 / 4.0GHz

Ryzen 3 5300U (Zen 2)

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The H-Series processors above typically use more power for greater performance and you will find these processor are configured to consume up to 35 or 45W at the high end. Meanwhile the U-Series is designed for thin and light machines and hybrids. These processors will typically be configured in the range of 15W to 25W TDP.

HEXUS has reported upon the Cezanne (CZN) and Lucienne (LCN) Mobile Processors previously (most recently on a Geekbench run in late November) but it is worth reminding readers that the former have Zen 3 cores, the latter Zen 2. Whichever you choose you will get faster clockspeeds than with the Ryzen 4000 Series mobile parts - and better IPC with Cezanne too. The built-in graphics are still Vega based and we will have to see how well they perform – but of course if you get a gaming laptop you will rely on the dGPU for high-performance 3D acceleration.

Incidentally, Tum Apisak uncovered an Asus ROG Zephyrus GX551QS Geekbench 5 score this weekend. This dual-screen laptop features a top end 8c/16T Ryzen 9 5900HX.

Signs are that AMD will do better in laptops in the coming year, with more high-end and gaming laptop wins. We expect to hear more about AMD's next gen Ryzen Mobile processors at CES 2021, and I'm sure partners like Asus and Lenovo will be keen to show off their devices too.

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Posted by Spud1 - Mon 07 Dec 2020 10:48
Could be really interesting if they can get their heat issues under control - and find a way to squeeze one of these chips into a proper 13" chassis.

The Zephyrus 14 was so close, but it was plasticy, very loud and very hot - so didn't quite fit the bill as an ultrabook. Hopefully this year someone will take one of these chips, combine with one of the RTX30 series Max Q that we're expecting, and put it in an aluminium ultrabook chassis.

I will keep dreaming, I don't think it's quite realistic yet…but we'll see!

edit: Didn't think about it at the time, but if AMD released an RDNA2 mobile chipset that could be even better - as much as I am a fan of DXR on desktop, it's much less important on a laptop imo so this could be a huge opportunity.
Posted by deksman2 - Mon 07 Dec 2020 12:50
Spud1
Could be really interesting if they can get their heat issues under control - and find a way to squeeze one of these chips into a proper 13" chassis.

The Zephyrus 14 was so close, but it was plasticy, very loud and very hot - so didn't quite fit the bill as an ultrabook. Hopefully this year someone will take one of these chips, combine with one of the RTX30 series Max Q that we're expecting, and put it in an aluminium ultrabook chassis.

I will keep dreaming, I don't think it's quite realistic yet…but we'll see!

edit: Didn't think about it at the time, but if AMD released an RDNA2 mobile chipset that could be even better - as much as I am a fan of DXR on desktop, it's much less important on a laptop imo so this could be a huge opportunity.

Asus is not really good when it comes to thermal performance.
I previously bought a GL702ZC laptop (which was a 17" desktop replacement with Ryzen 1700 and RX 580) which ended up breaking down all the time (the motherboard fried itself twice with the same issue and Asus insistently kept ‘repairing’ it as opposed to replacing it) because apparently the laptop's cooling was badly designed.
It was also excessively loud (it was impossible to game on it when you stressed it to the maximum).
I finally managed to get my money back by basically saying they breached my consumer rights and bought myself the Acer Predator Helios 500 PH517-61 (desktop replacement) with Ryzen 2700 and Vega 56.

That one I still have (for over a year now). Its amazingly quiet under maximum load (barely audible), its temperatures are also very low.
CPU maxes out at maybe 72 degrees Celsius, and GPU (limited to 120W TDP) doesn't exceed 65 degrees Celsius - these temperatures are with BOTH CPU and GPU running maxed out simultaneously for EXTENDED periods of time (no slowdowns, no unwanted noise or high temps).

Oh and, my Vega 56 is only 5-10% slower than the full desktop TDP unlocked version despite being limited to 120W TDP.

Its an amazingly well designed machine, but Acer DID mention they reworked the cooling to specifically accommodate AMD (which is something most OEM's don't do).

OEM's end up slapping generic cooling on most laptops, they cut corners and hope consumers won't notice.

I also noticed that this latest generation of laptops allows highly efficient CPU's (like Zen 2) to reach over 90 degrees Celsius when they are fully stressed.
This is unacceptable to me and I blame the OEM's entirely.

The only notable exception is the Eluktronics RP-15 which has a really good cooling.
The 4800H in that thing doesn't exceed 85 degrees celsius, and the GPU (RTX 2060) goes up to maybe 80 degrees celsius (and its allowed to raise its TDP to 110W for gaining extra performance).


I'm very critical of laptop OEM's… so I tend to be very attentive when it comes to laptop quality control and cooling (not to mention internal hw).
I usually wait and shop around until I find what I need… after all, if I need to use a laptop for content creation and occasional gaming, I need something reliable that will last me about 3 to 4 years at least.
Posted by LSG501 - Mon 07 Dec 2020 13:19
So basically 5600 or above and you get zen3 cores.

Now we just need to actually have stock available when it's released…. it's been hard enough getting a ryzen laptop with the current models and the current ‘supply constraints’ from the pandemic have made every other release ‘this year’ pretty much a paper launch for most people.
Posted by scaryjim - Mon 07 Dec 2020 19:57
LSG501
So basically 5600 or above and you get zen3 cores.

Ryzen 7 5700U is Zen 2. SO sadly it's not quite that straight-forward…
Posted by bae85 - Mon 07 Dec 2020 21:19
My zen 2 based laptop is awesome, for bottom end Zen 2 is more than good enough.

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